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BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico by a WIDE Margin

by nikkid, Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:02:06 PM EST

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Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico (2.00 / 2)

Isn't that amazing? Polls just closed and they're calling it by a wide margin already.

YEAAAHH!

I guess the exit poll show a stomping 31 percent spread did it.

by LindaSFNM on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:04:15 PM EST

Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico (2.00 / 1)

Looks like a 36 spead among women and a 38 spread among men.

It's funny that since Obama is not very electable in Ohio, Florida, West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky, and makes Pennsylvania a toss-up, his supporters say he will offset that with a perfect-chain-of-states EV victory in the Southwest.

But in the Southwest, we've had

Hillary winning Arizona
Obama winning a caucus in Colorado (no surprise)
Hillary winning Nevada
Hillary winning New Mexico
Hillary winning West Texas
Hillary winnin Southern California

And now Obama's weakness among Latinos look like it's on par with his weakness in West Virginia. I was expecting maybe a 15% spread. These numbers, like Kentucky and West Virginia are absolutely UNREAL.

2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.

by BPK80 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 04:17:35 PM EST
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Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico (none / 0)

And now Obama's weakness among Latinos look like it's on par with his weakness in West Virginia.

Yes because the demographics of Puerto Rico are the same as Mexican Americans.

For the past few months Hillary Clinton has teamed up with McCain and the rest of the GOP to try to rail Obama. And he is STILL way ahead of McCain in the Polls, both in popular consensus AND in the (hypothetical electoral college).

This time in 2000 Clinton was behind both Bush and Perot. There is absolutely NO evidence to suggest that an electoral comparison between the democratic primaries and the GE means shit.

When (not IF) Obama beats McCain in November can I come back and say I told you so?

Gobama!

by USArmyParatrooper on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 04:53:46 PM EST
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Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico(whoppe do) (none / 0)

Polls show Obama beats her in a head to head matchup with Democrats natiowide also.

Everyone knows that she won PR because of Bill's great popularity there and the fact that most of the Pr's living state side live in New York where her senate seat is.

Nothing new here.We already knew that if you completely stack the deck in her favor she can win sometimes.

by GeeMan on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 05:59:54 PM EST
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Spread (none / 0)

No one expected a landslide of 36%. These spreads that she puts up have been unreal recently.

2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.

by BPK80 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 09:37:57 PM EST
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Wonder how many delegates she'll net. (none / 0)

This being a delegate race, and all.

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:04:55 PM EST

Re: Wonder how many delegates she'll net. (none / 0)

8-10 is my guess.

John McCain on social security.

by heresjohnny on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:07:50 PM EST
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Re: Wonder how many delegates she'll net. (none / 0)

It doesn't matter how much she'll net since she's 180 behind Obama. The question is how many he'll gain from the election. He needs 64 right now to clinch the nomination. Most people are predicting that, with PR, SD, and MT, he'd need 20 supers to clinch.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:14:22 PM EST
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Re: Wonder how many delegates she'll net. (none / 0)

that's right, go for unity, piss in a pro-Hilary diary.

by anna shane on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:48:35 PM EST
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Re: Wonder how many delegates she'll net. (none / 0)

You're deluded. 8-10 is pissing on something? If I said 20 would you be happy? How about if I just said who gives a hoot since she can't catch up?

John McCain on social security.

by heresjohnny on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:53:51 PM EST
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Re: Wonder how many delegates she'll net. (none / 0)

I took is as an insult, was I wrong? Neither of them can win with pledged delegates, so the popular vote is what this is about. I thought you brought up the small number of delegates to piss on her great win.

by anna shane on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 04:06:23 PM EST
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Re: Wonder how many delegates she'll net. (none / 0)

It was a guess that had no underlying intent of judging the goodness or badness of the result.

John McCain on social security.

by heresjohnny on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 04:15:33 PM EST
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Re: Wonder how many delegates she'll net. (none / 0)

well, then it was just insensitive. There will be diaries later on on this, and if you're interested in unity, don't blog more of your innocent questions. and if not, go for it.

by anna shane on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 07:49:36 PM EST
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Re: Wonder how many delegates she'll net. (none / 0)

Insensitive to post numbers (which were wrong btw) about a political primary on a political website.

I didn't post the vanity fair article calling into question Bill's fidelity. I just posted some numbers.

John McCain on social security.

by heresjohnny on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 08:54:19 PM EST
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Its the popular vote! (1.50 / 2)

Obviously its the popular vote that matters. Specifically the popular vote that includes voters who DON'T matter (because they cannot vote in the GE) and excludes voters who do matter (caucuses and Obama Michigan voters).

And superdelegates will be swayed.

As Puerto Rico goes, so goes America!

democracy!

by BlueGAinDC on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:08:35 PM EST
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After arrogant people like that.. (1.00 / 1)

is it at all surprising that PR went for Hillary?

Get ready for for years of similar insults, or four years of McCain, right?

'Do the math'

What a cause for celebration...

Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.

by architek on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:52:06 PM EST
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Re: After arrogant people like that.. (none / 0)

Arrogant people like who?

John McCain on social security.

by heresjohnny on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:54:36 PM EST
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Re: After arrogant people like that.. (none / 0)

I'm sorry, but with Clinton dismissing American voters in states across the country throughout the primary, and now trying not to count caucusers, why should Puerto Ricans count more than people who actually can vote in the GE?

And no, its not surprising PR went for Hillary. Bill is wildly popular there, and people associate the two.

democracy!

by BlueGAinDC on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 05:27:48 PM EST
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See my signature please.

2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.

by BPK80 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 04:18:41 PM EST
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Hillary wins Puerto Rico by a WIDE Margin (2.00 / 2)

YUP! That's our girl.

on to the White House for HIllary!

by environmentally blue on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:05:20 PM EST

Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico by a WIDE M (none / 0)

Cool...
Give her one last time in the limelight
before she concedes this week from New York.
Winning 1 of the last three demonstrates she never gave up...

"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"

by nogo postal on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:06:29 PM EST

You B O supporters, such p!ssy sore losers (2.00 / 2)

it's not even funny to watch any more.

And we're not on your Obama losing thread, so you can leave with your bad attitude.

by LindaSFNM on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:13:39 PM EST
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Wait... (2.00 / 1)

I thought we judged the importance of victories on how many electoral votes available? Remember, big states?

by libertyleft on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:07:06 PM EST

Re: Wait... (2.00 / 1)

I guess Puerto Rico's become a State We Need to Win in November.

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:08:08 PM EST
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Re: Wait...I'll get the box of tissue for you all (2.00 / 1)

waaahhhhhhhhhhh....our guy just keeps tanking. A bad sign indeed.

ha ha!

by LindaSFNM on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:15:17 PM EST
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Re: Wait...I'll get the box of tissue for you all (2.00 / 1)

Yes, yes, he's tanked his way to 64 delegates from the nomination. :^)

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:19:18 PM EST
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lol....poor things. Carry on...your attitude (none / 0)

is doing WONDERS for your losing candidate.

by LindaSFNM on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:29:18 PM EST
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Re: lol....poor things. Carry on...your attitude (2.00 / 1)

I'm ready to book a dinner reservation for you and Harriet Christian so you can talk about how unfair it is that the black man won.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:39:46 PM EST
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Re: Wait...I'll get the box of tissue for you all (2.00 / 1)

Keeps tanking? He won Oregon and will win the last two contests and the nomination.

John McCain on social security.

by heresjohnny on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:23:46 PM EST
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Congratulations! (2.00 / 2)

BTW, John McCain voted to filibuster the minimum wage. John McCain doesn't support the troops. John McCain agrees with Bush's Iraq strategy. John McCain wants to overturn Roe v. Wade. John McCain supports NAFTA. John McCain is a puppet for the lobbyists. John McCain is fine letting our troops rot in Iraq for 100 years.

John McCain on social security.

by heresjohnny on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:07:19 PM EST

Congratulations Hillary! (2.00 / 1)

You may not agree with What I say but don't forget I am a Democrat

by indydem99 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:09:47 PM EST

Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico by a WIDE M (none / 0)

The Ricky Martin political machine brought this one home. Well done.

by Pat Flatley on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:12:14 PM EST

Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico by a WIDE M (none / 0)

What an old group of voters....41% were over 60.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:12:38 PM EST

Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico by a WIDE M (none / 0)

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primari es/results/state/#PR

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:15:20 PM EST
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auuhhh, you poor thing. You really having a hard (1.00 / 3)

time facing the reality of B O's losing streak huh?

You're really helping B O...keep it up sunshine. LOL

by LindaSFNM on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:31:22 PM EST
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Re: auuhhh, you poor thing. You really having a h (none / 0)

Losing streak? The last race was in Oregon and he won that.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:40:30 PM EST
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Thought you were 50. (1.00 / 0)

What gives.

by catfish2 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:31:34 PM EST
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Re: Thought you were 50. (none / 0)

I'm 50 now.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:40:42 PM EST
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Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico by a WIDE M (none / 0)

If PR does well by Hillary, maybe Harriet Christian will plan her next vacation there.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:16:17 PM EST

Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico by a WIDE M (1.00 / 1)

Too many black men in Puerto Rico.

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:25:20 PM EST
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Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico by a WIDE M (none / 0)

Maybe Harriet has determined that they're "adequate enough" for her.

by Pat Flatley on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:26:57 PM EST
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Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico by a WIDE M (none / 0)

OH NOES. Obama is doomed in the GE with Puerto Rico.

Oh, wait... nevermind.

by neonplaque on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:28:40 PM EST

Pledged Delegate differences ---- 136 (none / 0)

At the end of the day it would be 125

You may not agree with What I say but don't forget I am a Democrat

by indydem99 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:29:10 PM EST

Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins (2.00 / 1)

Congratulations to Senator Clinton.

On to South Dakota and Montana!

by Reaper0Bot0 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:31:15 PM EST

Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico (2.00 / 1)

Yes Hillary has won the important state of Puerto Rico making this 9 states out of the last 16.

Hillary has now officially clinched the 2nd half contests which began in March.

Go Hillary.

by HillsMyGirl on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:44:47 PM EST

Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico (none / 0)

Yes, and Obama will lose the 'state' of PR in the General Election!

by neonplaque on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:59:27 PM EST
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Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico by a WIDE M (2.00 / 1)

I have to laugh at Anderson Cooper - should the voters in PR be counted in the popular vote totals? Another person had to correct him to tell him that PR's are AMERICAN citizens.

by colebiancardi on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:47:17 PM EST

Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico by a WIDE M (none / 0)

You're right. It was a dumb question. The pop vote is irrelevant. Toobin pointed that out.

John McCain on social security.

by heresjohnny on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 04:02:32 PM EST
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It was actually a legitimate question (none / 0)

Another person had to correct him to tell him that PR's are AMERICAN citizens.

If you're only counting eligible voters for the GE, Puerto Rico would not factor in.

Gobama!

by USArmyParatrooper on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 05:00:48 PM EST
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Re: It was actually a legitimate question (none / 0)

but we aren't in the GE - we are in the primary. And the rules state that PR are counted in the democratic primary.

by colebiancardi on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 06:07:30 PM EST
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Re: It was actually a legitimate question (none / 0)

As I said it's all based on who you want to count. Some count the "popular" as an argument for who would win the General.

Also, those who voted for Obama in Caucus states and wanted to (or tried to) vote for Obama in Michigan should count as well.

Unless you work for Enron.

Gobama!

by USArmyParatrooper on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 09:42:21 PM EST
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Obama is conceding now (2.00 / 1)

He's saying some very nice things about Clinton.

In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

by Dracomicron on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 04:21:20 PM EST

big deal (none / 0)

so she won PR.
Did it become a state while I was out shopping?

They don't vote in the GE and this insignificant win shouldn't be counted in the popular vote totals.

"Beauty, more than bitterness, makes the heart break." Sara Teasdale

by april34fff on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 04:43:49 PM EST

Re: BREAKING: Hillary wins Puerto Rico by a WIDE M (none / 0)

Breaking: who cares? It's over

by fightbull on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 05:11:25 PM EST

Re: BREAKING: (none / 0)

I guess BO is not getting any electoral votes from PR in the GE.>/

david

by giusd on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 05:48:09 PM EST

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